Data loggers

In conclusion from the data loggers:
- During the period under investigation the surface relative humidity in the annex (green dotted line) is not especially high, but it is September and has been relatively warm.
- The example property dew point is in fact from my house, where I run a dehumidifier to maintain a healthy environment and reduce the need for, and cost of, heating. You should aim to bring your dew points down to a level closer to the outside, which in winter will be around 12°C. Increase the use of ventilation and consider getting a dehumidifier, to see improvements.
While I think the root cause of moisture and mould in your annex is excess vapour (i.e. condensation), I think it’s made much worse by poor insulation. The best way to deal with excess vapour in a property with uneven heating is using an effective 20L+ dehumidifier. Data loggers will be useful for ongoing monitoring following the implementation of my recommended actions. Working from home results in more cooking and more respiration. The energy crisis has resulted in people turning down the heat in unoccupied rooms and closing vents and windows.
Evidence & Illustrations
Property Type: The property is a semi-detached, 2-storey Victorian or Edwardian house with solid brick construction and internalised garage “annex”.
Background Summary:
Your main concern: “Aside from water ingress, we wonder whether any water might be leaking in from the guttering, or from the old garage building that is part of our property and adjacent to our house.
A simple answer is: while there is some ingress, the main cause of damp is excess vapour, causing condensation.
This surveys demonstrates the importance of having an independent surveyor who doesn’t benefit from recommendations.




























In my opinion, there would not be such a profitable “Rising Damp”proofing industry if bathroom manufacturers sold bathroom vents pre-set at 30 minutes (that is because condensation is typically mistaken for rising damp and bathroom and one of the main causes of excess vapour, especially in flats).


To keep the property dry | |
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| Remove mould | |
| Consider sanding down mould where dry, and removing it with either bleach or anti-mould foam. I personally use HG Mould Remover Foam Spray, but imagine there is no major difference between brands. | £100 |
| Use a dehumidifier | |
| Maintain relative humidity, especially at night when it’s cold outside, with a dehumidifier such as PureMate 20L/Day Portable & Compact Dehumidifier with 6.5 Litre (£179.99 Refrigerant), Duux Bora Smart Dehumidifier (DXDH02UK £300 Refrigerant) or Meaco DD8L Zambezi (£260 Desiccant – best for colder environments) – Which! Best buys. There are plenty of alternatives available. I choose daily capacity and tank capacity, low noise, whether it has a pipe out and ease of programmable functions over other considerations such as weight and aesthetics. The technology is old and easy to manufacture. So if the above brands are not available, you are sure to find another alternative. Evaluate based on daily capacity (20L minimum) and whether it has a continuous pipe out (use this to drip into a sink when away in winter). This is important if leaving a property empty, when it is cold at night or there has been a history of damp issues. If used when the property is vacant, make sure to pipe out water safely such as sitting in a shower, bath or kitchen sink, with the drain piped to the waste. | £180 |
| Improve bathroom vent ducting | |
| Enlarge the bathroom extractor fan ducting gap in the fascia timber holding up the gutter outside, with care because it is high, I would use a multi-tool AKA “oscillator” to cut around the section of timber. | £100 |
| Target vapour from bathroom | |
| TIP: Keep the bathroom door closed with the fan running or window open until the humidity from the shower has subsided – typically at least 30 mins after the last shower. | |
| Monitor vapour with data loggers | |
| Monitor relative humidity and temperature against the wall or ceiling to observe the effects of improvements, such as ORIA Wireless Thermometer Hygrometer (20m (2 Packs)) – already in place. In addition monitor improvements on the damp wall a pencil line and damp meter such as dr.wood moisture meter, logging improvements each month. Monitor relative humidity and temperature against the wall or ceiling to observe the effects of improvements, such as ORIA Wireless Thermometer Hygrometer (20m (2 Packs)) – already in place. In addition monitor improvements on the damp wall with a pencil line and damp meter such as dr.wood moisture meter, logging improvements each month. | |
| Target vapour from cooking | |
| Cook with tops on pots and pans to reduce the production of vapour from cooking by 80%. | |
| Target vapour from clothes drying | |
| Use a tumble dryer (like a heat pump), dry in a vented room with the door closed (possibly a bathroom with the extractor running or window open), or use a powerful dehumidifier. Don’t dry clothes in an unventilated room, such as the annex. | |
| Keep some late night heat | |
| TIP: Maintain a small amount of heat late at night when it’s cold outside. More efficient alternatives include 1) insulating cold walls, 2) strategically placing one or more dehumidifiers, positioned where the night-time dew point is highest – use data loggers to locate the optimal position (typically a damp room near a damp wall, e.g., kitchen, bathroom). Personally, I run a dehumidifier whenever leaving a room unheated. | |
| Encourage flow of warm air currents | |
| TIP: Keep objects away from walls where condensation or mould has built up. Ensure sufficient air flow behind the fridge to reduce the risk of condensation and mould. Consider insulating cold internal surfaces, for example, with floor insulation from B&Q or Wallrock Thermal Liner (ensure to use Wallrock Thermal Liner Adhesive). | |
| Check rainwater goods | |
| Clear the gutter of leaves and debris to prevent water accumulation and ensure effective drainage. Seal the gap along the edge of the bitumen felt with bitumen paint to prevent water ingress. Correct the dip on the flat roof to prevent water collection and ingress. Improve insulation or at least use a dehumanidifier and don’t dry clothes in the annex. | £500 |
| Remedial actions – estimate of costs | £880 |
Actions if all esle fails | |
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| Target insulation | |
| As a minimum I would insulate the annex and around metal, such as metal pipes and where exposed, wiring. | £1,000 |
| Repair render cracks | |
| Check and repair any cracks in the exterior walls to prevent water ingress. Address external render cracks by raking out, that is slightly enlarging and removing loose material and filling with an acrylic based caulk for small gaps and cement based mortar for larger gaps over 3mm. | £100 |
| Form drip groove under window sill | |
| Install a drip groove on the windowsill to prevent rainwater from being drawn back to the wall. Either use an angle grinder or chisel. | £100 |
| Consider painting anti-condensation | |
| Consider painting anti-condensation (e.g. DryZone by Safeguard on Amazon 5L £53.70) or anti-mould paint onto walls vulnerable to condensation or mould (top coat only), bathroom would be the obvious place. | £200 |
| Improve bathroom ventilation | |
| Consider installing a continuous flow bathroom extractor fan such as Brookvent Airstream DMEV 100 HT (Continuous Running Extractor Fan with Humidistat Timer) – I have installed one in a rental property I own myself, that was bought cheaply because of mould. Although important to have an isolator, it can be sited in a way that doesn’t tempt tenants to use it. Ideally the vent should be located away from the door, closer to the shower. I would also install a bathroom spring to encourage tenants to keep the door closed. Ideally the ducting should be rigid, for reduced air resistance, and insulated to reduce risk of condensation in pipe. | £300 |
| Remedial actions – estimate of total costs | £1,700 |
I conclude that no evidence of rising damp, which comes from groundwater in contact with walls. The risk of groundwater is very low. There were many signs of excess humidity causing condensation and mould.
There is mould growing is various parts of the property. Mould is caused by excess relative humidity over prolonged period indicating poor ventilation. By contrast mould is inhibited by the nitrates found in groundwater, the root cause of rising damp. The presence of rising mould eliminates rising damp.
I increased the bathroom extractor fan overruns from 15 minutes to 30 minutes.. By taking a root cause approach, rather than a focus on blocking the symptoms of damp the savings are likely to be around £10,000. This contrasts with typical damp proofing contractor recommendations such as chemical treatment for rising damp and untargeted ventilation, such as PIV systems.
Flood risk: Risk of surface water (i.e. penetrating damp from rainwater, not rising damp from groundwater) See Flood Risk (note most flood risk is not from groundwater).
Sub-soil rocks: Rocks with essentially no groundwater See British Geological Survey.
Therefore risk of Rising Damprising damp is highly unlikely, see explanation by Dr Robyn Pender of Historic England.
I confirm that I inspected the property on 21 Sep ’23 10:00. I conclude that no evidence of rising damp, which comes from groundwater in contact with walls. The risk of groundwater is very low. There were many signs of excess humidity causing condensation and mould. All buildings can be exposed to unvented vapour and external dampness to some degree. You will mitigate the risk of damp if you follow all our recommendations. This report is intended to be read in full including supplementary links in this report. Observations and opinions must not be taken in isolation. Given the right weather conditions almost any house can be affected by rain. Like any building, you need to be aware of the risks of damp arising in the future and should plan a programme of monitoring, prevention and maintenance accordingly. Damp Surveys Ltd reports are designed to provide you with an informed, independent expert opinion as to the cause of dampness in the property, together with any recommendations for further investigation or remedial work. We do not warrant any findings in this report unless we enter into a separate warranty agreement with you.
The survey was conducted during daylight hours. Damp will be more noticeable at night and when the weather is colder and more humid. Gutters are more likely to fail when full of leaves and during periods of prolonged rain and adverse wind. We make best endeavours but cannot guarantee being able to identify all forms of damp, rot and insect infestation affecting the property.
We carried out a careful and thorough inspection of as much of the property as was accessible. However, when a full inspection is not possible, we make a professional judgement regarding the likelihood of a defect being present. In certain circumstances, this may lead to a recommendation for further action to open up an area for additional investigation. We were unable to inspect the entire roof, all the guttering, and some of the drains. Similarly, inspection of woodwork or other parts of the structure that were covered, unexposed, poorly lit or inaccessible such as in the loft, cellar, or sub-floor void was not possible, and therefore we are unable to assert that such parts of the property are free from defect. There were no obvious signs of damp resulting from these limitations
Negligence claims must be made within 90 days of the damp survey site visit. Clients must make best endeavours to monitor humidity and temperature on a damp wall and the closest source of humidity, by purchasing and placing two dataloggers for example the Smart Hygrometer measuring humidity on the wall and nearest source of vapour, before and after following our recommendations. These dataloggers have sufficient memory capacity to store 90 days of data.
This report is for the sole use of the client (named on the invoice, but omitted here for anonymity) for whom the survey was undertaken and can only be relied upon for 90 days from the survey date. Unless expressly stated otherwise in this report, nothing in this report confers or is intended to confer any rights on any third party pursuant to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999.
Simon Hichens
Site visit 21 Sep ’23 10:00
Simon Hichens BSc Chemistry RICS Qualified Expert Witness (Chartered Surveyors)
PCA Certificated Surveyor of Dampness & Timber in Buildings (Property Care Association)
Damp Surveys Ltd, 119 Longton Ave London SE26 6RF Reg. 10977488 (England & Wales)
Founder of damp.aï & Member of the Society for the Protection of Ancient Buildings (SPAB)
Our damp surveys are designed to provide a holistic diagnosis that identifies and deals with causes rather than a focus on symptoms. Symptoms will disappear over time, once damp is stopped at source. We look for risks of dampness, but unless moisture is present, we can’t guarantee to identify all risks of future moisture. Our reports:
- identify root cause(s) of major unwanted dampness within the property,
- identify major symptoms of unwanted dampness,
- identify major structural damage caused by dampness,
- recommend actions and estimated costs to stop damp at source and mitigate its effects,
- recognise that treating damp is often a staged approach, treating obvious causes first.
Independence and Methodology
Our only income is through damp survey fees. We are independent of contractors and never profit from remedial work. We do not receive or pay any fees or other inducements. Our motivation is peace of mind and practical, durable solutions. We use an array of equipment to identify the root cause of damp within walls. Our damp surveys follow guidance from RICS, Historic England and PCA joint position statement and support RICS’s highest standard, level 3 “Home Survey Standard” (HSS).
During the survey we assess likelihood of rising damp*, mainswater leak, penetrating damp, condensation, timber rot and woodworm. We profile the damp patches and consider the likely sources of dampness and test ventilation against building regulations requirements. We consider changes to the property and factors just before the first sighting of damp.
For survey purposes, damp is defined as unwanted water. Water brings life. We need it. Unfortunately, fungus and insects also thrive in water. While a damp wall can cause decorative spoiling, it is not moisture, but the life it brings that causes the greatest concern in the home environment. FACT: vapour causes 85% of residential damp problems.
W.H.O. indoor air quality guidelines
“Management of moisture requires proper control of temperature and ventilation to avoid excess humidity, condensation on surfaces and excess moisture in materials. Ventilation should be distributed effectively throughout spaces, and stagnant air zones should be avoided.”
FACT: Houses contain 30 – 40 litres of water as vapour typically. Each day, each occupant adds on average about 1.5 litres as follows:
- Each shower results in 1/2L condensing (the ceond in aseries won’t add as much)
- Vapour from drying clothes releases about ½ litre per day if dried indoors
- Respiration releases about ¾ litre per day (of which ¼ l at night)
- Cooking produces about ¼ litre per day per person
- Unvented vapour can cause condensation, mould and allergenic dust mites. The simple rule for keeping your property dry and mould free is;
- Vent out as much vapour as produced, each and every day!
- Central heating and double-glazing reduce background ventilation. To overcome this you should use mechanical extractors. Where properties are rented, consider using monitoring devices (such as a Govee WIFI hygrometer) and if necessary, install continuous flow extractors, but beware there can be a thermal cost caused by continuous heat lost.
FACTS about Condensation and Mould
- FACT: warm air holds more water vapour than cold air. The warmer it is, the more air’s capacity to hold water vapour. Conversely the colder it is, the less capacity, until air cannot hold any more vapour. We call that the dew point or 100%RH. As soon air reaches capacity, condensation will form on the coldest surfaces.
- FACT: Mould and dust mites
- FACT: mould only grows when air is humid for long periods. In the occupied home environment, it is 6 hours over 85% RH. For properties that are unoccupied for long periods, it is 75% RH for many days of consistent and high humidity. Avoid allowing the surface relative humidity of cold walls to exceed 85% RH by ventilating, dehumidifying, insulating, and ensuring airflow, particularly in cold corners, base of walls and ceilings, eaves, and cold window and door reveals.
- FACT: dust mites are microscopic insects that can cause allergies. They grow in similar conditions to mould. So ventilate more to avoid allergies.
- FACT: Health concerns
There are no health and safety issues from damp noted. It is in the occupier’s interests to keep a property properly ventilated and temperatures above the dew and mould points throughout the property, thereby reducing the health risk associated with dust mites, bacteria, protozoans, as well as decorative spoiling caused by mould.
TIPS To Stay Condensation and Mould Free
- TIP: Reduce the production of vapour at source:
- TIP: Keep bathroom extractor fans running, or window open for at least 30 minutes.
- TIP: Keep bathroom doors closed at all times, and bathroom windows open safely.
- TIP: When filling the bath, run the cold water first then add the hot.
- TIP: Dry clothes outside, in a dryer, in a closed room with a dehumidifer or window open, never on radiators or heated rail without a door closed and means of removing the vapour.
- TIP: Cook with tops on pots and pans, avoiding excessive boiling.
- TIP: Keep the kitchen door closed and extractor fan on where possible.
- TIP:Mechanical vents are best, but if you only have passive vents, such as a whole in the wall or chimney, then vents open with space for air to move, insulate where possible.
- TIP: Keep trickle vents open or alternatively, open windows on safety locks.
- TIP: Stop mould forming:
* Maintain external wall temperatures above 12°C, with low background heating.
* Declutter leaving space for warm air to circulate around cold surfaces.
* Where possible, avoid placing wardrobes and furniture against external walls.
* Avoid overfilling wardrobes and cupboards as it restricts air circulation.
* Use dehumidifiers or small wardrobe dehumidifying bags and replace regularly.
* Wipe mould and condensation off walls and clothes as soon as it appears. - TIP: Monitor relative humidity
* We recommend monitoring temperature and relative humidity with a data logger to see what is happening.
Relevant examples of properties with similar damp issues: electric-sockets
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What does the damp report say are the main causes of damp and main actions to stop damp?
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