Background
A brown stain has been observed at the top of an internal wall directly beneath the roof, suggesting potential moisture ingress. However, the roof immediately above appears to be in reasonable order and dampness has not spread onto the ceiling. This property needs extra time and data to pinpoint the root cause.💧
Data loggers – see damp.ai/detect

Represents surface relative humidity. During the monitoring period, it shows levels at or near 100% RH, particularly from late Saturday, 23rd to 24th November.
Explanation: 100% RH indicates the point at which condensation forms on cold surfaces or evaporation is taking place, suggesting the surfaces are frequently at dew point during this period.
💙 Blue Line (Internal Vapour Levels):
Represents internal vapour levels relative to the outside temperature. The blue line rises soon after the grey line dips, indicating high vapour on the stair wall following high bathroom vapour, except on late Saturday, 23rd to 24th November.
Context: This pattern suggests that the bathroom is a significant source of internal vapour, contributing to higher humidity levels in nearby areas, except late Saturday, 23rd to 24th November when rain appears to be the main root cause.
🩶 Grey Line (Dew Point Differential):
Represents the difference in dew points between two spaces. This line shows which room has a higher dew point at any given time. During warm, wet weather, the internal dew point rises. Since both rooms are influenced by the same vapour source, the differential should remain stable unless additional factors are present.
Insight: The changing differential points to rainwater ingress as the root cause, not interstitial condensation. This assumption is based on all other factors being equal. Other potential sources, such as a wet coat being hung nearby, could undermine this hypothesis.

Conclusion from data loggers
The dew point differential is much higher in the hall than the bathroom, during a rain storm, suggesting that rain is the root cause. There could be other influences. The loft is above the bathroom and separate from both rooms, and so therefore should be isolated from a vapourperspective, unless there is a leak from the extractor fan ducting. It would be useful to have data from the loft.
Evidence & Illustrations







In conclusion – updated following review of the data from the loggers
Identifying the Root Cause of Damp – next steps
It now appears that there is an increase in the dew point on the damp wall, at the time of rain, suggesting a leaking roof, probably the valley, which should be cleared of debris and moss and photographed to look for cracks.
- Rain Ingress:
- Compare logged data with local rainfall events. If spikes in humidity or moisture content coincide with rain, this suggests potential roof leaks or ingress through damaged roof materials.
- Insufficient Ventilation:
- Persistent high humidity in the loft, especially without ventilation or airflow changes, may suggest inadequate loft ventilation, exacerbating condensation issues.
- Leaking Vent Duct:
- If the data shows high relative humidity or dew point in the loft, particularly after using ventilation (e.g., shower extractor fans), it may indicate a leaking vent duct releasing moist air into the loft space.
- Lighting or Loft Penetrations:
- Poor Insulation:
- If dampness coincides with sudden heat loss (temperature drops), this may indicate poor or missing insulation, causing cold spots where condensation forms.
Next Steps
- Monitor Patterns:
- Continue to vary ventilation and heating patterns while observing data trends.
- Visual Inspection:
- Inspect vent ducts, lighting installations, insulation, and roof integrity.
- Verify Findings:
- Cross-reference findings from the data loggers, damp meter readings, and weather reports to narrow down the exact cause of dampness.
This systematic approach should help pinpoint whether the issue stems from condensation (due to ventilation or insulation problems) or rain ingress through the roof.
To keep the property dry | |
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| Have a roofer check the valley | |
| After spending more time analysing the data from the loggers, I now believe the issue is related to rain — either due to backing up from debris and moss, or a crack in the valley. Ask a roofer to remove the debris and check the valley. This can be done fairly easily by accessing the flat roof with a ladder. It is within the capability of a home enthusiast. Take images of the valley and study them. If there is a crack, obtain a quote from a roofer. The cost will likely be in the region of £1,000 to £2,000, depending on the findings. | £500 |
| More data from loggers | |
| Identifying the Cause of Damp 1) Place Monitors: Install a data logger in the loft above the damp zone. Position another data logger near the wall below. 2) Collect Data: Monitor relative humidity and dew point. Compare results using damp.ai/detect, setting the loft logger as the primary device. 3) Potential Causes: Leaking Vent Duct: High humidity in the loft after ventilation use. Loft Penetrations: Moisture spikes near lighting or ceiling penetrations. Insufficient Ventilation: Persistent high humidity in the loft. Poor Insulation: Sudden heat loss correlating with damp. Rain Ingress: Humidity increases during rainfall. 4) Next Steps: Vary vent and heating use to identify patterns. Cross-check data with weather reports. Inspect ducts, insulation, and roof integrity. This will clarify if the damp is due to condensation or rain ingress. | |
| Target vapour from bathroom | |
| TIP: Keep the bathroom door closed with the fan running or window open until the humidity from the shower has subsided – typically at least 30 mins after the last shower. | |
| Target vapour from clothes drying | |
| Use a tumble dryer (like a heat pump), dry in a vented room with the door closed (possibly a bathroom with the extractor running or window open), or use a powerful dehumidifier. Don’t dry clothes in an unventilated room. | |
| Check rainwater goods | |
| Clear the gutter of leaves and debris to prevent water accumulation and ensure effective drainage. Seal the gap along the edge of the bitumen felt with bitumen paint to prevent water ingress. Correct the dip on the flat roof to prevent water collection and ingress. Improve insulation or at least use a dehumidifier and don’t dry clothes in the annex. | £500 |
| Use fan to expedite drying | |
| Direct a fan onto the damp patch to speed up the drying process. | £50 |
| Use a dehumidifier | |
| Maintain relative humidity, especially at night when it’s cold outside, with a dehumidifier such as: PureMate 20L/Day Portable & Compact Dehumidifier with a 6.5-litre tank (£179.99, refrigerant) Duux Bora Smart Dehumidifier (DXDH02UK, £300, refrigerant) Meaco DD8L Zambezi (£260, desiccant, best for colder environments) — Which! Best buys There are plenty of alternatives available. I choose a dehumidifier based on daily capacity, tank size, low noise, continuous drainage (pipe out), and ease of programmable functions over other considerations such as weight and aesthetics. The technology is well-established and functions similarly to fridges, with a comparable fire risk profile. If these brands are unavailable, you can confidently select another alternative. When evaluating, prioritise a minimum daily capacity of 20L and continuous drainage capability (use this to drip into a sink when away in winter). Tip: Use a dehumidifier whenever leaving a property vacant. Set it to 70%RH and drip into a sink—especially in winter. This method is more efficient than other humidity management methods, including ventilation. | £180 |
| Monitor dampness in walls | |
| Mark improvements on damp walls with a pencil line or sticky note and use a moisture meter, such as the Dr. Meter Wood Moisture Meter 2 in 1 Pin & Pinless Multifunctional Water Detector £23.99 or similar damp meter. Log and monitor the reduction in dampness to gain early confidence in these recommendations. | £23 |
| Reduce vapour from cooking | |
| Cook with tops on pots and pans to reduce the production of vapour from cooking by 80%. | |
| Remedial actions – estimate of costs | £1,253 |
Actions if all else fails | |
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| Consider targeted insulation | |
| Consider insulating around the skylight. Insulation should not be instead of removing moisture through ventilation and dehumidification, but it will go a long way to reducing the risk of mould. Beside it is quite inexpensive and easily accessible on all side. | £400 |
| Optimal actions – estimate of costs | £400 |
I conclude that the primary cause of internal dampness is probably rainwater, although I can’t rule out interstitial condensation in the loft.
I now believe the issue is related to rain — either due to backing up from debris and moss, or a crack in the valley. Ask a roofer to remove the debris and check the valley. This can be done fairly easily by accessing the flat roof with a ladder. It is within the capability of a home enthusiast.
By taking a root cause approach, rather than a focus on blocking the symptoms of damp the savings are likely to be around £10,000. This contrasts with typical damp proofing contractor recommendations such as chemical treatment for rising damp and untargeted ventilation, such as PIV systems.
Flood risk: No risk See Flood Risk (note most flood risk is not from groundwater).
Sub-soil rocks: Rocks with essentially no groundwater See British Geological Survey.
Therefore risk of Rising Damp: remote possibility, see explanation by Dr Robyn Pender of Historic England.
I confirm that I inspected the property on 20 November 2024. I conclude that the primary cause of internal dampness is probably rainwater, although i can’t rule out interstitial condensation in the loft.. All buildings can be exposed to unvented vapour and external dampness to some degree. You will mitigate the risk of damp if you follow all our recommendations. This report is intended to be read in full including supplementary links in this report. Observations and opinions must not be taken in isolation. Given the right weather conditions almost any house can be affected by rain. Like any building, you need to be aware of the risks of damp arising in the future and should plan a programme of monitoring, prevention and maintenance accordingly. Damp Surveys Ltd reports are designed to provide you with an informed, independent expert opinion as to the cause of dampness in the property, together with any recommendations for further investigation or remedial work. We do not warrant any findings in this report unless we enter into a separate warranty agreement with you.
The survey was conducted during daylight hours. Damp will be more noticeable at night and when the weather is colder and more humid. Gutters are more likely to fail when full of leaves and during periods of prolonged rain and adverse wind. We make best endeavours but cannot guarantee being able to identify all forms of damp, rot and insect infestation affecting the property.
We carried out a careful and thorough inspection of as much of the property as was accessible. However, when a full inspection is not possible, we make a professional judgement regarding the likelihood of a defect being present. In certain circumstances, this may lead to a recommendation for further action to open up an area for additional investigation. We were unable to inspect the entire roof, all the guttering, and some of the drains. Similarly, inspection of woodwork or other parts of the structure that were covered, unexposed, poorly lit or inaccessible such as in the loft, cellar, or sub-floor void was not possible, and therefore we are unable to assert that such parts of the property are free from defect. There were no obvious signs of damp resulting from these limitations
Negligence claims must be made within 90 days of the damp survey site visit. Clients must make best endeavours to monitor humidity and temperature on a damp wall and the closest source of humidity, by purchasing and placing two data loggers for example the Smart Hygrometer measuring humidity on the wall and nearest source of vapour, before and after following our recommendations. These data loggers have sufficient memory capacity to store 90 days of data.
This report is for the sole use of the client (named on the invoice, but omitted here for anonymity) for whom the survey was undertaken and can only be relied upon for 90 days from the survey date. Unless expressly stated otherwise in this report, nothing in this report confers or is intended to confer any rights on any third party pursuant to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999.
Simon Hichens
Site visit 20 November 2024
Simon Hichens BSc Chemistry RICS Qualified Expert Witness (Chartered Surveyors)
PCA Certificated Surveyor of Dampness & Timber in Buildings (Property Care Association)
Damp Surveys Ltd, 119 Longton Ave London SE26 6RF Reg. 10977488 (England & Wales)
Founder of damp.aï & Member of the Society for the Protection of Ancient Buildings (SPAB)
Our damp surveys are designed to provide a holistic diagnosis that identifies and deals with causes rather than a focus on symptoms. Symptoms will disappear over time, once damp is stopped at source. We look for risks of dampness, but unless moisture is present, we can’t guarantee to identify all risks of future moisture. Our reports:
- identify root cause(s) of major unwanted dampness within the property,
- identify major symptoms of unwanted dampness,
- identify major structural damage caused by dampness,
- recommend actions and estimated costs to stop damp at source and mitigate its effects,
- recognise that treating damp is often a staged approach, treating obvious causes first.
Understanding damp
For survey purposes, damp is defined as unwanted water. Water brings life. We need it. Unfortunately, fungus and insects also thrive in water. While a damp wall can cause decorative spoiling, it is not moisture, but the life it brings that causes the greatest concern in the home environment. FACT: vapour causes 85% of residential damp problems.
Independence and Methodology
Our only income is through damp survey fees. We are independent of contractors and never profit from remedial work. We do not receive or pay any fees or other inducements. Our motivation is peace of mind and practical, durable solutions. We use an array of equipment to identify the root cause of damp within walls. Our damp surveys follow guidance from RICS, Historic England and PCA joint position statement and support RICS’s highest standard, level 3 “Home Survey Standard” (HSS).
During the survey we assess likelihood of rising damp*, mainswater leak, penetrating damp, condensation, timber rot and woodworm. We profile the damp patches and consider the likely sources of dampness and test ventilation against building regulations requirements. We consider changes to the property and factors just before the first sighting of damp.
“Management of moisture requires proper control of temperature and ventilation to avoid excess humidity, condensation on surfaces and excess moisture in materials. Ventilation should be distributed effectively throughout spaces, and stagnant air zones should be avoided.”
FACT: Houses contain 30 – 40 litres of water as vapour typically. Each day, each occupant adds on average about 1.5 litres as follows:
- Each shower results in 1/2L condensing (each additional shower in a series won’t add as much as the first, so long as the door is kept closed)
- Vapour from drying clothes releases about ½ litre per day if dried indoors
- Respiration releases about ¾ litre per day (of which ¼ l at night)
- Cooking produces about ¼ litre per day per person
- Unvented vapour can cause condensation, mould and allergenic dust mites. The simple rule for keeping your property dry and mould free is;
- Vent out as much vapour as produced, each and every day!
- Central heating and double-glazing reduce background ventilation. To overcome this you should use mechanical extractors. Where properties are rented, consider using monitoring devices (such as a Govee WIFI hygrometer) and if necessary, install continuous flow extractors, but beware there can be a thermal cost caused by continuous heat lost.
FACTS about Condensation and Mould
- FACT: warm air holds more water vapour than cold air. The warmer it is, the more air’s capacity to hold water vapour. Conversely the colder it is, the less capacity, until air cannot hold any more vapour. We call that the dew point or 100%RH. As soon air reaches capacity, condensation will form on the coldest surfaces.
- FACT: Mould and dust mites
- FACT: Mould only grows when air is humid for long periods. In the occupied home environment, it is 6 hours over 85% RH. For properties that are unoccupied for long periods, it is 75% RH for many days of consistent and high humidity. Avoid allowing the surface relative humidity of cold walls to exceed 85% RH by ventilating, dehumidifying, insulating, and ensuring airflow, particularly in cold corners, base of walls and ceilings, eaves, and cold window and door reveals.
- FACT: Dust mites are microscopic insects that can cause allergies. They grow in similar conditions to mould. So ventilate more to avoid allergies.
- FACT: Health concerns: There are no health and safety issues from damp noted. It is in the occupier’s interests to keep a property properly ventilated or dehumidified and temperatures above the dew and mould points throughout the property, thereby reducing the health risk associated with dust mites, bacteria, protozoans, as well as decorative spoiling caused by mould.
TIPS To Stay Condensation and Mould Free
- TIP: Reduce the production of vapour at source:
- TIP: Keep bathroom extractor fans running, or window open for at least 30 minutes.
- TIP: Keep bathroom doors closed at all times, and bathroom windows open safely.
- TIP: When filling the bath, run the cold water first then add the hot.
- TIP: Dry clothes outside, in a dryer, in a closed room with a dehumidifier or window open, never on radiators or heated rail without a door closed and a means of removing the vapour.
- TIP: Cook with tops on pots and pans, avoiding excessive boiling.
- TIP: Keep the kitchen door closed and extractor fan on where possible.
- TIP:Mechanical vents are best, but if you only have passive vents, such as a whole in the wall or chimney, then vents open with space for air to move, insulate where possible.
- TIP: Keep trickle vents open or alternatively, open windows on safety locks.
- TIP: Stop mould forming:
* Maintain external wall temperatures above 12°C, with low background heating.
* Declutter leaving space for warm air to circulate around cold surfaces.
* Where possible, avoid placing wardrobes and furniture against external walls.
* Avoid overfilling wardrobes and cupboards as it restricts air circulation.
* Use dehumidifiers or small wardrobe dehumidifying bags and replace regularly.
* Wipe mould and condensation off walls and clothes as soon as it appears. - TIP: Monitor relative humidity
* We recommend monitoring temperature and relative humidity with a data logger to see what is happening.
Relevant examples of similar damp issues or remediation:
Interstitial Condensation Suspected
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