Nine years ago, when purchasing the flat, the courtyard bedroom was damp and mouldy on the external wall. Kenwood Damp-Proofing Plc removed plaster and tanked the walls — measures that seemed successful at the time, but when the property was rented out, underlying damp issues resurfaced.
Following a Damp Surveys Ltd visit in 2022, significant efforts were made to resolve internal ventilation issues, including upgrading extractor fans, resulting in improved conditions throughout the flat. However, two weeks ago, a damp smell was detected in the courtyard bedroom, accompanied by discolouration and mould at the edge of the carpet near the external wall. Further inspection revealed damp floorboards, mould in the underlay and plywood, and particularly wet supporting joists closest to the external wall, highlighting a resurgence of the damp problem and raising concerns about its root cause.
I don’t appear to have data from the loggers, other than screenshots. damp.ai/detect was made for internal damp issues, so may not be helpful. Typically sub-floorrelative humidity will vary from 60 – 85%RH. However, this depends on a number of factors, including a leak, as you have here. The relative humidity of the external air is 100%RH when it rains. A data logger subject to external temperature and external air, will tend towards 100%RH when it is raining, but will drop back from this when dry.
There was dampness in the sub-floor. Some joists were damaged by Coniophora puteana, also known as cellar rot, is a brown wet fungus. It requires water to grow. Eliminating the water source will stop rot from causing further damage to timber. There was also woodworm damage, caused by wood weevil, which often accompanies cellar rot. Unlike most other forms of woodworm, where it is mainly the larva that borrows (hence the misleading term; woodworm), the adult wood weevil will also burrow back in, resulting more surface damage than caused by most woodworm. Wood weevil requires active cellar rot. Drying the timber out and eliminating the water source of water will stop both the rot and the wood weevil from causing further damage to timber. Joists only need about 30 – 50% of their full strength to support floorboards. By my estimates there was sufficient strength in the joists to remain in place, furthermore rot will only spread through damp timber. Therefore in theory there is no need for treatment other than to dry the timber and keep the sub-floor dry by fixing the cracked drain or venting out the sub-floor. However, given that the floor has been raised and therefore access to the sub-floor is relatively easy, it makes sense to strengthen the two damaged joist with similar sized, but tanalised (treated) timber. This should take a few hours for a general builder.
To keep the property dry
CCTV drain check
Have a drain company with specialist CCTV drain surveying equipment check the drains for signs of cracks and other defects, and repair with an expandable lining system – or as they deem appropriate.
Maintain low relative humidity, especially at night when it’s cold outside, with a dehumidifier such as PureMate 20L/Day – already in place.
£800
Timber repairs
Given the dampness in the front room, I would recommend investigating the subfloor throughout the rest of the building where there may be a risk of dampness, including areas below this flat (for example, the bathroom at the opposite end). This is to check if any dampness and or damage to the timbers has spread. Damaged joists will need to be strengthened with similar-sized tanalised timber matching the original joists and bolted onto them. This process should take a few hours per strengthened section of timber for a carpenter or general builder, once they have access and the necessary timber.
Use a hygrometer probe or data logger to monitor humidity in the sub-floor (in place during survey). The sub-floor relative humidity will fluctuate. If it remains above 85%RH for an extended period (weeks despite some dry periods) then consider installing a fan into the sub-floor to blow air out. Increasing ventilation is tricky as there is limited accessibility and exiting holes are periscopic. Consider installing an inline fan blowing air out constantly at a low speed. I would attach a short (~1 metre) pipe to the end of the fan (sufficient size to fit the fan into it, typically the fan is 100mm). Put a mesh on the inside to prevent mice from entering the fan and being harmed. Keep an access panel for maintenance, with an easy switch or possibly timer. I would switch the fan off after say 2 – 4 months, if after repairing the drain relative humidity drops back to normal levels – fluctuating between 60 – 85%RH, after which you can disassemble the pipe, as the fan and pipe will impede airflow when not in use. Note: sub-floor ventilation is a safety mechanism, not required when the sub-floor is dry. The main cost is the electrical work.
£1,000
Remedial actions – estimate of costs
£7,000
This estimate is based on approximate time, costs and competence to complete repairs. It is not a quote for work. We are independent. A general builder can complete most work. trustedtraders.which.co.uk is good sources of general builders. Once the recommended remedial actions are completed and the walls allowed to dry, dampness will not have a material impact on the value of the property. It is the client’s responsibility to check that a contractor has sufficient insurance and competence to undertake any work that we recommend.
I conclude that rot caused by rainwater, likely to be made worse by age related damage to the main drain in the corner of the external patio.
A CCTV drain firm found a cracked and slipped old drain travelling from the manhole to a drain in front of the wall that borders the kitchen and affected room.
. By taking a root cause approach, rather than a focus on blocking the symptoms of damp the savings are likely to be around £5,000. This contrasts with typical damp proofing contractor recommendations such as chemical treatment for rising damp and untargeted ventilation, such as PIV systems.
I confirm that I inspected the property on 240910SH1030. I conclude that rot caused by rainwater, likely to be made worse by age related damage to the main drain in the corner of the external patio.. All buildings can be exposed to unvented vapour and external dampness to some degree. You will mitigate the risk of damp if you follow all our recommendations. This report is intended to be read in full including supplementary links in this report. Observations and opinions must not be taken in isolation. Given the right weather conditions almost any house can be affected by rain. Like any building, you need to be aware of the risks of damp arising in the future and should plan a programme of monitoring, prevention and maintenance accordingly. Damp Surveys Ltd reports are designed to provide you with an informed, independent expert opinion as to the cause of dampness in the property, together with any recommendations for further investigation or remedial work. We do not warrant any findings in this report unless we enter into a separate warranty agreement with you.
The survey was conducted during daylight hours. Damp will be more noticeable at night and when the weather is colder and more humid. Gutters are more likely to fail when full of leaves and during periods of prolonged rain and adverse wind. We make best endeavours but cannot guarantee being able to identify all forms of damp, rot and insect infestation affecting the property.
We carried out a careful and thorough inspection of as much of the property as was accessible. However, when a full inspection is not possible, we make a professional judgement regarding the likelihood of a defect being present. In certain circumstances, this may lead to a recommendation for further action to open up an area for additional investigation. We were unable to inspect the entire roof, all the guttering, and some of the drains. Similarly, inspection of woodwork or other parts of the structure that were covered, unexposed, poorly lit or inaccessible such as in the loft, cellar, or sub-floor void was not possible, and therefore we are unable to assert that such parts of the property are free from defect. There were no obvious signs of damp resulting from these limitations
Negligence claims must be made within 90 days of the damp survey site visit. Clients must make best endeavours to monitor humidity and temperature on a damp wall and the closest source of humidity, by purchasing and placing two data loggers for example the Smart Hygrometer measuring humidity on the wall and nearest source of vapour, before and after following our recommendations. These data loggers have sufficient memory capacity to store 90 days of data.
This report is for the sole use of the client (named on the invoice, but omitted here for anonymity) for whom the survey was undertaken and can only be relied upon for 90 days from the survey date. Unless expressly stated otherwise in this report, nothing in this report confers or is intended to confer any rights on any third party pursuant to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999.
Simon Hichens
Site visit 240910SH1030
Simon Hichens BSc Chemistry RICS Qualified Expert Witness (Chartered Surveyors) PCA Certificated Surveyor of Dampness & Timber in Buildings (Property Care Association) Damp Surveys Ltd, 119 Longton Ave London SE26 6RF Reg. 10977488 (England & Wales) Founder of damp.aï & Member of the Society for the Protection of Ancient Buildings (SPAB)
Our damp surveys are designed to provide a holistic diagnosis that identifies and deals with causes rather than a focus on symptoms. Symptoms will disappear over time, once damp is stopped at source. We look for risks of dampness, but unless moisture is present, we can’t guarantee to identify all risks of future moisture. Our reports:
identify root cause(s) of major unwanted dampness within the property,
identify major symptoms of unwanted dampness,
identify major structural damage caused by dampness,
recommend actions and estimated costs to stop damp at source and mitigate its effects,
recognise that treating damp is often a staged approach, treating obvious causes first.
Note neither condensation nor rising damp are causes. They are symptoms.
Understanding damp
For survey purposes, damp is defined as unwanted water. Water brings life. We need it. Unfortunately, fungus and insects also thrive in water. While a damp wall can cause decorative spoiling, it is not moisture, but the life it brings that causes the greatest concern in the home environment. FACT: vapour causes 85% of residential damp problems.
Independence and Methodology
Our only income is through damp survey fees. We are independent of contractors and never profit from remedial work. We do not receive or pay any fees or other inducements. Our motivation is peace of mind and practical, durable solutions. We use an array of equipment to identify the root cause of damp within walls. Our damp surveys follow guidance from RICS, Historic England and PCA joint position statement and support RICS’s highest standard, level 3 “Home Survey Standard” (HSS).
During the survey we assess likelihood of rising damp*, mainswater leak, penetrating damp, condensation, timber rot and woodworm. We profile the damp patches and consider the likely sources of dampness and test ventilation against building regulations requirements. We consider changes to the property and factors just before the first sighting of damp.
“Management of moisture requires proper control of temperature and ventilation to avoid excess humidity, condensation on surfaces and excess moisture in materials. Ventilation should be distributed effectively throughout spaces, and stagnant air zones should be avoided.”
FACT: Houses contain 30 – 40 litres of water as vapour typically. Each day, each occupant adds on average about 1.5 litres as follows:
Each shower results in 1/2L condensing (each additional shower in a series won’t add as much as the first, so long as the door is kept closed)
Vapour from drying clothes releases about ½ litre per day if dried indoors
Respiration releases about ¾ litre per day (of which ¼ l at night)
Cooking produces about ¼ litre per day per person
Unvented vapour can cause condensation, mould and allergenic dust mites. The simple rule for keeping your property dry and mould free is;
Vent out as much vapour as produced, each and every day!
Central heating and double-glazing reduce background ventilation. To overcome this you should use mechanical extractors. Where properties are rented, consider using monitoring devices (such as a Govee WIFI hygrometer) and if necessary, install continuous flow extractors, but beware there can be a thermal cost caused by continuous heat lost.
FACT: dehumidifiers are a win-win as all energy is released as heat with a 50% bonus through enthalpy, but they need to be targeted to the source of the vapour or location of dampness and mould, should be insufficient, typically 20 L/ day theoretical capacity with 6 Litre container and decanted daily or drained into a sink or similar.
FACTS about Condensation and Mould
FACT: warm air holds more water vapour than cold air. The warmer it is, the more air’s capacity to hold water vapour. Conversely the colder it is, the less capacity, until air cannot hold any more vapour. We call that the dew point or 100%RH. As soon air reaches capacity, condensation will form on the coldest surfaces.
FACT: Mould and dust mites
FACT: Mould only grows when air is humid for long periods. In the occupied home environment, it is 6 hours over 85% RH. For properties that are unoccupied for long periods, it is 75% RH for many days of consistent and high humidity. Avoid allowing the surface relative humidity of cold walls to exceed 85% RH by ventilating, dehumidifying, insulating, and ensuring airflow, particularly in cold corners, base of walls and ceilings, eaves, and cold window and door reveals.
FACT: Dust mites are microscopic insects that can cause allergies. They grow in similar conditions to mould. So ventilate more to avoid allergies.
FACT: Health concerns: There are no health and safety issues from damp noted. It is in the occupier’s interests to keep a property properly ventilated or dehumidified and temperatures above the dew and mould points throughout the property, thereby reducing the health risk associated with dust mites, bacteria, protozoans, as well as decorative spoiling caused by mould.
TIPS To Stay Condensation and Mould Free
TIP: Reduce the production of vapour at source:
TIP: Keep bathroom extractor fans running, or window open for at least 30 minutes.
TIP: Keep bathroom doors closed at all times, and bathroom windows open safely.
TIP: When filling the bath, run the cold water first then add the hot.
TIP: Dry clothes outside, in a dryer, in a closed room with a dehumidifier or window open, never on radiators or heated rail without a door closed and a means of removing the vapour.
TIP: Cook with tops on pots and pans, avoiding excessive boiling.
TIP: Keep the kitchen door closed and extractor fan on where possible.
TIP:Mechanical vents are best, but if you only have passive vents, such as a whole in the wall or chimney, then vents open with space for air to move, insulate where possible.
TIP: Keep trickle vents open or alternatively, open windows on safety locks.
TIP: Stop mould forming: * Maintain external wall temperatures above 12°C, with low background heating. * Declutter leaving space for warm air to circulate around cold surfaces. * Where possible, avoid placing wardrobes and furniture against external walls. * Avoid overfilling wardrobes and cupboards as it restricts air circulation. * Use dehumidifiers or small wardrobe dehumidifying bags and replace regularly. * Wipe mould and condensation off walls and clothes as soon as it appears.
TIP: Monitor relative humidity * We recommend monitoring temperature and relative humidity with a data logger to see what is happening.
Help It takes teamwork to solve damp and mould issues in properties. It isn’t easy or obvious. We can help with damp.ai. Time permitting the plan is to run online workshops for solving damp issues, within the community.
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