Over the past three to four weeks, damp patches have developed along the floorboards in front of two ground floor fireplaces. The patches are observed to grow slightly larger each day.
There is an unusually consistent level of surface relative humidity. The data logger is near the timber, which is drying out, suggesting that vapour is coming from below rather than condensing on the timber from above.
There is darkened timber around the hearth. Damp meter readings were high on the darkened timber confirming dampness. Moisture appears to be coming from below, through the sub-floorvoid. It is unlikely that water is passing through the hearth, but rather that there is high sub-floorrelative humidity, and that with colder external temperatures, condensation is taking place between the hearth and timber. Timber will darken, a sign of dampness, when cells are saturated, at which point the cell wall will split open, making the timber vulnerable to rot. Rot produces its own moisture as a by-product of respiration, so it is liable to continue to cause damage until sub-floor humidity is brought down through improved ventilation.
Having an open timber floor, with gaps between boards, as you do, helps with sub-floor ventilation. Although warm internal air, which holds high levels of vapour, can increase the risk of high relative humidity in the cold sub-floor—for example, if the dew point internally is 13°C, as it frequently was, and the sub-floor temperature is below that during cold snaps—then there is a risk of condensation in the sub-floor. However, I doubt that is the root cause in this case, especially given the additional evidence, see below.
There is dampness up the right-hand wall. Most of the other walls were dry.Marks on the external face of the brick wall are a sign of past damp-proofing against rising damp, despite the property not being at risk from rising damp, which originates from groundwaterbeneath the water table. Damp-proofing typically involves both injecting a form of silicone to stop the rise of dampness in bricks and replacing absorbent plaster with impermeable plaster. One of the downsides of treating properties for rising damp is that other forms of damp can be masked, such as a leak in the sub-floor void. This can lead to rot, potentially resulting in greater damage than rising damp.There is a slow turn on the central analogue dial on your water meter indicating a loss of water. I turned the internal stopcock off. The dial continued to turn telling that there is a leak somewhere between the two stopcocks. It is possible that the leak is by the roadside stopcock, in which case it would be Thames Water’s responsibility to repair it.One of the biggest risks to properties is rot in the sub-floor void, specifically Dry rot, which can destroy timber in a matter of months. There were none of the tell-tale signs of Dry rot; red spores and a distinctive “mushroomy” smell. The next most common rot in sub-floor voids is Coniophora puteana, also known as cellar rot, a brown wet fungus. It is often associated with wood weevil, both require water. Eliminating the water source will stop rot from causing damage to timber. There is no evidence of active rot, however there is a possibility.
Given that the floorboards will need to be raised, it can be almost as time-consuming and disruptive to check for rot as it is to trace, repair the leak, and replace any rotten timber. The sub-floor ventilation was partially blocked to the side. I opened it during the survey, this should lower the sub-floorrelative humidity and reduce the risk of ongoing dampness. If there is rot in the sub-floor void, and there is a real risk of early stage rot, rot will continue to cause damage until the leak is fixed and sub-floorrelative humidity is lowered through ventilation.
Thames water can check whether there is a leak by the stopcock. Failing that you should ask a plumber to investigate under the floor and repair the pipe. Arguably it could be worth replacing the whole of the old mains water pipe, which may lead, from the external stopcock to the internal stopcock – this may cost in the order of £2,000. Once repaired, check that the stopcock dial is no longer turning.
£500
Timber repairs
While floorboards have been lifted, check the joists close to the hearths. Most timber can sustain up to about 50% loss of strength without needing replacing. It is often better to strengthen timber with a similar sized, second piece of timber bolted onto the first. It should be tanalised (that is protected against rot – typically tanalised timber will stained green).
Keep sub-floor ventilation around the property clear, opening any holes blocked by paint, spiders web or debris. Use a hygrometer probe or data logger to monitor humidity in the sub-floor (easy to purchase from Amazon, eBay etc.). The sub-floor relative humidity will fluctuate. It could take months for humidity to drop after a significant leak. If it remains above 85%RH for an extended period (weeks despite some dry periods) then consider installing a fan into the sub-floor to blow air out. Increasing ventilation is tricky as there is limited accessibility. Consider installing an inline fan blowing air out constantly at a low speed. I would attach a short (~1 metre) pipe to the end of the fan (sufficient size to fit the fan into it, typically the fan is 100mm). Put a mesh on the inside to prevent mice from entering the fan and being harmed. Keep an access panel for maintenance, with an easy switch or possibly timer. I would switch the fan off after say 2 – 4 months, if after repairing the drain relative humidity drops back to normal levels – fluctuating between 60 – 85%RH, after which you can disassemble the pipe, as the fan and pipe will impede airflow when not in use. Note: sub-floor ventilation is a safety mechanism, not required when the sub-floor is dry. The main cost is the electrical work.
Follow Dew’s Law to effectively manage internal vapour, it is crucial to maintain the internal vapour levels, as measured by the dew point in degrees Centigrade, below the external temperature. This can be achieved through adequate ventilation and the use of dehumidifiers. Monitor the internal Dew Point with a reliable device, such as the Habotest Hygrometer or Dew Point Meter HT607, or utilise the sensorblue app paired with the ORIA Wireless Thermometer Hygrometer. These tools help in accurately gauging humidity levels, ensuring they remain optimal. For more detailed information on detecting and managing damp issues, please visit https://damp.ai/detect.
Use a tumble dryer (like a heat pump), dry in a vented room with the door closed (possibly a bathroom with the extractor running or window open), or use a powerful dehumidifier. Don’t dry clothes in an unventilated room.
Bathroom Humidity Management
After showering, keep the bathroom door closed and the window open or fan running for at least 30 minutes to allow vapour to dissipate.
Remedial actions – estimate of costs
£1,280
This estimate is based on approximate time, costs and competence to complete repairs. It is not a quote for work. We are independent. A general builder can complete most work. trustedtraders.which.co.uk is good sources of general builders. Once the recommended remedial actions are completed and the walls allowed to dry, dampness will not have a material impact on the value of the property. It is the client’s responsibility to check that a contractor has sufficient insurance and competence to undertake any work that we recommend.
I conclude that the primary cause of internal dampness is a leak between the external and internal stopcocks, causing dampness in the sub-floor void, made worse by restricted sub-floor ventilation, which I opened during the survey.
There is a real risk of early stage rot, rot will continue to cause damage until the leak is fixed and sub-floor relative humidity is lowered through ventilation. Rot produces its own moisture as a by-product of respiration, so it is liable to continue to cause damage until sub-floor humidity is brought down through improved ventilation.
I opened the side ventilation. By taking a root cause approach, rather than a focus on blocking the symptoms of damp the savings are likely to be around £10,000. This contrasts with typical damp proofing contractor recommendations such as chemical treatment for rising damp and untargeted ventilation, such as PIV systems.
I confirm that I inspected the property on 29 October 2024. I conclude that the primary cause of internal dampness is a leak between the external and internal stopcocks, causing dampness in the sub-floor void, made worse by restricted sub-floor ventilation, which i opened during the survey.. All buildings can be exposed to unvented vapour and external dampness to some degree. You will mitigate the risk of damp if you follow all our recommendations. This report is intended to be read in full including supplementary links in this report. Observations and opinions must not be taken in isolation. Given the right weather conditions almost any house can be affected by rain. Like any building, you need to be aware of the risks of damp arising in the future and should plan a programme of monitoring, prevention and maintenance accordingly. Damp Surveys Ltd reports are designed to provide you with an informed, independent expert opinion as to the cause of dampness in the property, together with any recommendations for further investigation or remedial work. We do not warrant any findings in this report unless we enter into a separate warranty agreement with you.
The survey was conducted during daylight hours. Damp will be more noticeable at night and when the weather is colder and more humid. Gutters are more likely to fail when full of leaves and during periods of prolonged rain and adverse wind. We make best endeavours but cannot guarantee being able to identify all forms of damp, rot and insect infestation affecting the property.
We carried out a careful and thorough inspection of as much of the property as was accessible. However, when a full inspection is not possible, we make a professional judgement regarding the likelihood of a defect being present. In certain circumstances, this may lead to a recommendation for further action to open up an area for additional investigation. We were unable to inspect the entire roof, all the guttering, and some of the drains. Similarly, inspection of woodwork or other parts of the structure that were covered, unexposed, poorly lit or inaccessible such as in the loft, cellar, or sub-floor void was not possible, and therefore we are unable to assert that such parts of the property are free from defect. There were no obvious signs of damp resulting from these limitations
Negligence claims must be made within 90 days of the damp survey site visit. Clients must make best endeavours to monitor humidity and temperature on a damp wall and the closest source of humidity, by purchasing and placing two data loggers for example the Smart Hygrometer measuring humidity on the wall and nearest source of vapour, before and after following our recommendations. These data loggers have sufficient memory capacity to store 90 days of data.
This report is for the sole use of the client (named on the invoice, but omitted here for anonymity) for whom the survey was undertaken and can only be relied upon for 90 days from the survey date. Unless expressly stated otherwise in this report, nothing in this report confers or is intended to confer any rights on any third party pursuant to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999.
Simon Hichens
Site visit 29 October 2024
Simon Hichens BSc Chemistry RICS Qualified Expert Witness (Chartered Surveyors) PCA Certificated Surveyor of Dampness & Timber in Buildings (Property Care Association) Damp Surveys Ltd, 119 Longton Ave London SE26 6RF Reg. 10977488 (England & Wales) Founder of damp.aï & Member of the Society for the Protection of Ancient Buildings (SPAB)
Our damp surveys are designed to provide a holistic diagnosis that identifies and deals with causes rather than a focus on symptoms. Symptoms will disappear over time, once damp is stopped at source. We look for risks of dampness, but unless moisture is present, we can’t guarantee to identify all risks of future moisture. Our reports:
identify root cause(s) of major unwanted dampness within the property,
identify major symptoms of unwanted dampness,
identify major structural damage caused by dampness,
recommend actions and estimated costs to stop damp at source and mitigate its effects,
recognise that treating damp is often a staged approach, treating obvious causes first.
Note neither condensation nor rising damp are causes. They are symptoms.
Understanding damp
For survey purposes, damp is defined as unwanted water. Water brings life. We need it. Unfortunately, fungus and insects also thrive in water. While a damp wall can cause decorative spoiling, it is not moisture, but the life it brings that causes the greatest concern in the home environment. FACT: vapour causes 85% of residential damp problems.
Independence and Methodology
Our only income is through damp survey fees. We are independent of contractors and never profit from remedial work. We do not receive or pay any fees or other inducements. Our motivation is peace of mind and practical, durable solutions. We use an array of equipment to identify the root cause of damp within walls. Our damp surveys follow guidance from RICS, Historic England and PCA joint position statement and support RICS’s highest standard, level 3 “Home Survey Standard” (HSS).
During the survey we assess likelihood of rising damp*, mainswater leak, penetrating damp, condensation, timber rot and woodworm. We profile the damp patches and consider the likely sources of dampness and test ventilation against building regulations requirements. We consider changes to the property and factors just before the first sighting of damp.
“Management of moisture requires proper control of temperature and ventilation to avoid excess humidity, condensation on surfaces and excess moisture in materials. Ventilation should be distributed effectively throughout spaces, and stagnant air zones should be avoided.”
FACT: Houses contain 30 – 40 litres of water as vapour typically. Each day, each occupant adds on average about 1.5 litres as follows:
Each shower results in 1/2L condensing (each additional shower in a series won’t add as much as the first, so long as the door is kept closed)
Vapour from drying clothes releases about ½ litre per day if dried indoors
Respiration releases about ¾ litre per day (of which ¼ l at night)
Cooking produces about ¼ litre per day per person
Unvented vapour can cause condensation, mould and allergenic dust mites. The simple rule for keeping your property dry and mould free is;
Vent out as much vapour as produced, each and every day!
Central heating and double-glazing reduce background ventilation. To overcome this you should use mechanical extractors. Where properties are rented, consider using monitoring devices (such as a Govee WIFI hygrometer) and if necessary, install continuous flow extractors, but beware there can be a thermal cost caused by continuous heat lost.
FACT: dehumidifiers are a win-win as all energy is released as heat with a 50% bonus through enthalpy, but they need to be targeted to the source of the vapour or location of dampness and mould, should be insufficient, typically 20 L/ day theoretical capacity with 6 Litre container and decanted daily or drained into a sink or similar.
FACTS about Condensation and Mould
FACT: warm air holds more water vapour than cold air. The warmer it is, the more air’s capacity to hold water vapour. Conversely the colder it is, the less capacity, until air cannot hold any more vapour. We call that the dew point or 100%RH. As soon air reaches capacity, condensation will form on the coldest surfaces.
FACT: Mould and dust mites
FACT: Mould only grows when air is humid for long periods. In the occupied home environment, it is 6 hours over 85% RH. For properties that are unoccupied for long periods, it is 75% RH for many days of consistent and high humidity. Avoid allowing the surface relative humidity of cold walls to exceed 85% RH by ventilating, dehumidifying, insulating, and ensuring airflow, particularly in cold corners, base of walls and ceilings, eaves, and cold window and door reveals.
FACT: Dust mites are microscopic insects that can cause allergies. They grow in similar conditions to mould. So ventilate more to avoid allergies.
FACT: Health concerns: There are no health and safety issues from damp noted. It is in the occupier’s interests to keep a property properly ventilated or dehumidified and temperatures above the dew and mould points throughout the property, thereby reducing the health risk associated with dust mites, bacteria, protozoans, as well as decorative spoiling caused by mould.
TIPS To Stay Condensation and Mould Free
TIP: Reduce the production of vapour at source:
TIP: Keep bathroom extractor fans running, or window open for at least 30 minutes.
TIP: Keep bathroom doors closed at all times, and bathroom windows open safely.
TIP: When filling the bath, run the cold water first then add the hot.
TIP: Dry clothes outside, in a dryer, in a closed room with a dehumidifier or window open, never on radiators or heated rail without a door closed and a means of removing the vapour.
TIP: Cook with tops on pots and pans, avoiding excessive boiling.
TIP: Keep the kitchen door closed and extractor fan on where possible.
TIP:Mechanical vents are best, but if you only have passive vents, such as a whole in the wall or chimney, then vents open with space for air to move, insulate where possible.
TIP: Keep trickle vents open or alternatively, open windows on safety locks.
TIP: Stop mould forming: * Maintain external wall temperatures above 12°C, with low background heating. * Declutter leaving space for warm air to circulate around cold surfaces. * Where possible, avoid placing wardrobes and furniture against external walls. * Avoid overfilling wardrobes and cupboards as it restricts air circulation. * Use dehumidifiers or small wardrobe dehumidifying bags and replace regularly. * Wipe mould and condensation off walls and clothes as soon as it appears.
TIP: Monitor relative humidity * We recommend monitoring temperature and relative humidity with a data logger to see what is happening.
Help It takes teamwork to solve damp and mould issues in properties. It isn’t easy or obvious. We can help with damp.ai. Time permitting the plan is to run online workshops for solving damp issues, within the community.
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